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 Post subject: Jamis Winston
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On TV news tonight, TMZ is reporting that Winston is under investigation for sexual assault. :idontknow:

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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2013 ... t?gcheck=1

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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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Details of police report make it hard to believe it is him based on the reported height of the assailant.

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/11/1 ... ssault-tmz

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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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Details of police report make it hard to believe it is him based on the reported height of the assailant.

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/11/1 ... ssault-tmz

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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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It doesn't sound like him but here's to hoping that F$U's season comes crashing down, regardless.


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The charge is from 2012, so if they had any proof he would be prosecuted by now.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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Probably some people trying to derail his Heisman campaign. Kinda shady...unless it's true, of course.


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As much as I'd relish FSU's season eroding into a massive pile of horse crap, there's nothing to see here.

Being "part of an investigation" is a VERY wide ranging statement. It seems that Squinston is just as involved in this, as Tebow is in all that AH stuff. (If he's listed as knowing the suspect or the victim, he's "involved.")

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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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I am willing to bet Urban is behind this.................


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I am willing to bet Urban is behind this.................


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Best news i've heard in months

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Don't quite know what to think here on this one... Tally PD has been sweeping stuff under the rug for years now, and the fact that Winston was "investigated" without having actually been interviewed is fishy. Also fishy is how the media got on to this. The girl filed the complaint within 2 hours of the event, which means she did it right away (processing takes time)...It could be that the girl is making the media aware. You know that old thing of "what, you haven't done anything? fine, I'll go tell the news"...well it may come back to bite FSU in the butt-ocks!

Squintz is going to deny it here...FSU is going to deny...the family will be all up in arms...but let the investigation play out. I'll bet there's more to this than people think.

The height inaccuracy (to me) is inconsequential. She named Winston in the report, I don't care that she doesn't know how tall he was...

EDIT for Accuracy: The heavily redacted report does not name Winston

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Explain how a report becomes heavily redacted


To protect the names of people/places/witnesses from the media... happens all the time

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Explain how a report becomes heavily redacted


To protect the names of people/places/witnesses from the media... happens all the time

You are right about TPD. LCSO is corrupt too.

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Real well thought out piece on what is going on and why it has dragged on like this.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-jamei ... n-mess.php

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Real well thought out piece on what is going on and why it has dragged on like this.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/the-jamei ... n-mess.php


Good article.

I know libertines will go nuts when I say this, but if I were a coach putting incoming freshmen through orientation, I'd bring in former players willing to share their own horror stories about things that happened when they failed to keep it in their pants. Girls will throw themselves at athletes left and right, and that creates a virtual minefield for athletes. On the one hand, you never know which girls are trying to use sex to force financial concessions from you (be it through the threat of rape, an actual allegation of rape, or through pregnancy). On the other hand, if enough girls throw themselves at an athlete, he may start letting it go to his head and assume that every girl wants a piece of him, no matter how much she might protest to the contrary.

You can bet that more than a few rape allegations have arisen as a result of both scenarios.

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Rapis Winston.


I'm sorry Lord...

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I have no idea how the actual case will come out, but I'll bet that TMZ (and probably Yahoo) are not going to let go of the cover up angle. There really is no excuse for TPD to sit on the case for 11 months. They would collect what evidence they have, then turn it over to the State attorney, who would decide if it is worth prosecuting or not. Once they dig into that, I'm sure they will find that FSU knew about it from the beginning but did nothing about it, there were several schools that suspended players for less, waiting for their cases to play out. So, I think that at least TOD will be seen as dragging their feet, and there is a good chance that FSU will end up looking bad for taking no action on it as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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They will decide within the next two weeks if they will file charges...if so he gets dismissed from the team. Got to be some high power UF alums that can make this happen. They also lost their backup...Coker...for the year


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 Post subject: Re: Jamis Winston
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He has witnesses saying he wasn't there, but how hard would it be for him to get two witnesses?

I do think it is a case where people look to dig up bad info on people when they become big media stories.


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I read a quote from the guy now in charge of the investigation saying there were some "interesting" statements being gathered from witnesses. Who know what that means, but the same article said if charges are brought (which should be decided in 1-2 weeks) then by ACC rule he must be suspended.


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Guy is 18-19 for 275 yards midway through 2nd quarter. It doesn't matter who they play but their O is some technobowl stuff


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